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Question No. 8800 31 August 2022 Official answer by Master Ali Saei (Abdullah Meshkat) verified Content level: Advanced

Does Your Existence Lie Outside God’s Existence?

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Dear questioner, Master Ali Saei
Tracking code: #Q-8800

⁉️Does your existence lie outside God’s existence?
Light is common in meaning to both the sun and a candle:
Are the sun and the candle one and the same?
Does that mean light becomes two things?!
Answer:
My existence has been brought into being by the Creator, the Bestower of existence.
Each has its own parts and is separate from the other. The candle’s light going out does not extinguish the sun!
That is what your assumption would imply!
If existence is considered common in meaning to Creator and creation—to the One who brings into being and what is brought into being—then existence becomes one, and light becomes one; God forbid, the One who brings into being and what is brought into being would become one, too.
On your assumption, the existence of Creator and creation would be one, since you have deemed existence common in meaning to both. In other words, in your view, existence is one in all that possess it. Is this assumption compatible with the oneness of the Divine Essence???
The candle and the sun are alike in that they both exist, just as they are both God’s creations, brought into being by Him. They are one in their being created, yet each has its own distinct identity!
Both exist, just as both are alive.
In the language of the Two Weighty Things, we may say that both are subject to God’s power, each determined according to its own particular measure!

The essence and first answer at a glance (60-word summary)

Human existence does not lie outside God’s existence, but this does not mean that Creator and creation are one. The light of a candle and the sun’s light are alike in meaning, but they are not one and the same: both are created by God, and each has its own distinct identity.

Answer by Master Ali Saei (Abdullah Meshkat)

Teacher and researcher in the intellectual tradition of wisdom and the Ahl al-Bayt | Soroush Bamdadān Cultural Center

⁉️Does your existence lie outside God’s existence?

Light is common in meaning to both the sun and a candle. Does that make the sun and the candle one and the same? Does light become two?!

Answer:

My existence was brought into being by the Creator, the All-Bountiful Giver of existence.

Each has its own parts, and they are separate from one another. The candle’s light going out does not extinguish the sun!

That is the implication of your premise!

If existence is taken to be common in meaning to both the created and the Creator, the One who brings into being and the one brought into being, then existence becomes one—and light becomes one too. God forbid, the One who brings into being and the one brought into being would also become one.

On your premise, the existence of the Creator and the created would be one, since you regard existence as common in meaning to both. In other words, by your reasoning, existence is one in everything that exists. Is that premise compatible with the oneness of the Divine Essence?

The candle and the sun share the fact of having existence, just as both are God’s creatures and both are created by God. They are alike in being created, but each has its own distinct identity.

Both exist, just as both are alive.

In the language of the Thaqalayn, we can say that both are subject to divine power, each having been determined according to its own particular decree!

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